forum and mailing list issues

So, I’ve just tried logging into both the forum and the mailing list, as admin, and neither work.

I have no clue why, and they were working last time I used them, and everything else seems to be fine, and there is as far as I can tell no logging.

I’ll fix it soon, but probably I will ditch both of the them (Dadamail was likely to go anyway). That means going back to EsoTalk for the forum, and maybe a non-GUI install of mailman for the mailing list.

Ugh. Jesus. Forums and mailing lists and open source software. Ugh.